I’ve been using it to listen to actual MP3s of the music I have. I can’t find any decent MP3 player on iOS (incredibly ironic given the iPod was one of the 3 devices the iPhone was supposed to be when Steve Jobs first introduced it) and VLC is pretty good.
I’m using VLC because it’s the only one that I know that can play opus. I chose the latter for lossy encoding because I have a few albums that are gapless and it’s hackish to get mp3 to support those (other than single mp3 file and cue file).
Have used VLC for at least 20 years. Recently I upgraded an old Dell 9400 laptop that dates from around 2006 to Debian Bookworm (the end of the line for the 32-bit machines). It has a nice 1600x1200 display, but the Nvidia Graphics (Geforce Go 7900 GS) is poorly supported and mpv now requires --hwdec=no, making 720p videos barely playable. VLC now uses a fraction of the CPU as mpv does for video, which makes even 1080p videos playable. For some reason VLC chokes at the beginning of every video (tries to play before everything is ready), but by pausing the video and backing up to time zero it plays perfectly. All of this to say that VLC has saved the day as it frequently has over the years.
The award is well deserved, VLC was a godsend a few years ago but I’m not sure what VLC brings to the table nowadays. All other players play videos just fine on Linux now. I guess VLC is only a thing on Windows because the default software is crap. On Linux almost everyone now use whatever is the default player or MPV for the nerds.
I used VLC until I looked for a backward frame step functionality. I then found this thread on the VLC forums where the maintainers explain (with bad attitude) why this functionality is technically impossible. Everyone points out that mpv supports it, but the maintainers double down and say they’re Doing It Wrong and it shouldn’t be possible.
On Windows at least VLC has had better alternatives for the past 20 years, both feature and UI wise. I had frame-stepping hotkeys back in the mid-00s with Korean video players. These days I use the currently maintained fork of MPC-HC which similarly has this.
On Mac it wasn't until the mid-10s that I found a decent player.
“I, like others, arrived here through a Google search looking for this feature. Reading this thread is one of the worst decisions I've made recently. I will never have this time back and I am worse for it.”
I use it on my Android phone. Is there a better FOSS media player (or better any media player?).
VLC also still (or at least recently?) provides APKs you can download to install on very old Android versions. I have it installed on a few old Android tablets (and by old I mean something like Android version 4).
VLC was not important on Linux. Because we have ffmpeg as foundation, used by mplayer and nowadays mpv. The later is my recommendation. Whether on the tty (awesome!) or on Wayland. If you prefer a native Gtk an interface is available, named Celluloid. In all these cases mpv is mighty, reliable, fits into the environment with a frugal interface.
We’ve also players based on gstreamer but ffmpeg is more reliable.
But the need for a reliable player on Windows, Android, macOS, iOS and tvOS is big. Because their default players suck. VLC comes with an awkward UI and the weird built-in stuff for SMB. But from a 2001 point-of-view it makes sense, LAN-parties are nice and back then they were everywhere. And Windows doesn’t support WebDAV well.
My favorite is mpv. But I’m still tankful that I’ve one usable player in my iPhone.
I might be wrong but I think the guys at VLC are still very important contributors to ffmpeg, which is still a big deal.
They also (kinda recently) developed some really low latency tech for streaming called Kyber
So bottomline the player might not be used that much (although on mobile the app is very popular still) but the tech they develop for it, is
I vouched for this post because I have corresponded with him and he engaged in an in unnecessarily condescending way. What are you referring to by GSOC?
Jean-Baptiste is a hero! Just in case some of you don't know or remember, he has refused an offer to sell VLC for tens of millions of Euros because he didn't want enshittify it. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15372048.
VLC is most beautiful software for me. They never spied on their users, never put any bloat. Thanks Jean-Baptiste Kempf and everyone involved bringing this beautiful piece of art to life!
So many hours of fun watching videos over the years, without the constant fear that some odd codec would make the experience impossible. Thanks, VLC!
“If you insert a slice of bologna into the disc tray, VLC will play it.”
I remember using VLC and figuring out how to download subtitles and use them within it.
I suddenly became the computer person of my family at 11 because of that
Public service announcement: VLC is on iPhone in the App Store, too. (Some people don't know this.)
I’ve been using it to listen to actual MP3s of the music I have. I can’t find any decent MP3 player on iOS (incredibly ironic given the iPod was one of the 3 devices the iPhone was supposed to be when Steve Jobs first introduced it) and VLC is pretty good.
I’m using VLC because it’s the only one that I know that can play opus. I chose the latter for lossy encoding because I have a few albums that are gapless and it’s hackish to get mp3 to support those (other than single mp3 file and cue file).
Foobar2000 is my go to on iOS. Works well just like the PCs version.
I find it handy for streaming videos from my Jellyfin server with good subtitling support, then casting to a TV!
How do you manage this? Just copy the stream URL from Jellyfin Web or…?
Yup the Stream URL is a valid HTTP media!
Have used VLC for at least 20 years. Recently I upgraded an old Dell 9400 laptop that dates from around 2006 to Debian Bookworm (the end of the line for the 32-bit machines). It has a nice 1600x1200 display, but the Nvidia Graphics (Geforce Go 7900 GS) is poorly supported and mpv now requires --hwdec=no, making 720p videos barely playable. VLC now uses a fraction of the CPU as mpv does for video, which makes even 1080p videos playable. For some reason VLC chokes at the beginning of every video (tries to play before everything is ready), but by pausing the video and backing up to time zero it plays perfectly. All of this to say that VLC has saved the day as it frequently has over the years.
One of the few honorable techies who didn't sell out
He’s pretty obsessed with making money off his Khyber thing afaict
Seems like Kyber is dual-licensed AGPL and proprietary, seems like a pretty standard way to fund an open source project.
why is that a problem
The award is well deserved, VLC was a godsend a few years ago but I’m not sure what VLC brings to the table nowadays. All other players play videos just fine on Linux now. I guess VLC is only a thing on Windows because the default software is crap. On Linux almost everyone now use whatever is the default player or MPV for the nerds.
I used VLC until I looked for a backward frame step functionality. I then found this thread on the VLC forums where the maintainers explain (with bad attitude) why this functionality is technically impossible. Everyone points out that mpv supports it, but the maintainers double down and say they’re Doing It Wrong and it shouldn’t be possible.
So anyways, I switched to mpv.
https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=120627
On Windows at least VLC has had better alternatives for the past 20 years, both feature and UI wise. I had frame-stepping hotkeys back in the mid-00s with Korean video players. These days I use the currently maintained fork of MPC-HC which similarly has this.
On Mac it wasn't until the mid-10s that I found a decent player.
“I, like others, arrived here through a Google search looking for this feature. Reading this thread is one of the worst decisions I've made recently. I will never have this time back and I am worse for it.”
I use it on my Android phone. Is there a better FOSS media player (or better any media player?).
VLC also still (or at least recently?) provides APKs you can download to install on very old Android versions. I have it installed on a few old Android tablets (and by old I mean something like Android version 4).
MPV everywhere else though.
MPV is on android too. But VLC is alright
Yep.
VLC was not important on Linux. Because we have ffmpeg as foundation, used by mplayer and nowadays mpv. The later is my recommendation. Whether on the tty (awesome!) or on Wayland. If you prefer a native Gtk an interface is available, named Celluloid. In all these cases mpv is mighty, reliable, fits into the environment with a frugal interface.
We’ve also players based on gstreamer but ffmpeg is more reliable.
But the need for a reliable player on Windows, Android, macOS, iOS and tvOS is big. Because their default players suck. VLC comes with an awkward UI and the weird built-in stuff for SMB. But from a 2001 point-of-view it makes sense, LAN-parties are nice and back then they were everywhere. And Windows doesn’t support WebDAV well.
My favorite is mpv. But I’m still tankful that I’ve one usable player in my iPhone.
PS: VLC also uses ffmpeg?
Yeah, ffmpeg's libav is responsible for its famed codec support.
I might be wrong but I think the guys at VLC are still very important contributors to ffmpeg, which is still a big deal. They also (kinda recently) developed some really low latency tech for streaming called Kyber So bottomline the player might not be used that much (although on mobile the app is very popular still) but the tech they develop for it, is
> I’m not sure what VLC brings to the table nowadays Lack of backdoors?
So, the same value-add as always!
Agreed except I have no idea what Jean-Baptiste actually does besides trying to run his little startup Khyber
Default player sucks and MPV is close to impossible to compile yourself. VLC is still a good solution on Linux.
VLC is definitely one of the best projects. Congrats!
I have benefited so much from the versatility and reliability of VLC over the years. Congratulations, a very well deserved award!
If you wondered SFS comes from the SFSCon, which is the South Tyrol Free Software Conference, SFSCON
past winners: https://www.sfscon.it/awards/
I met that guy during a gsoc mentor summit and it inspired me, out of spite, to never install VLC on any device I own
Thats funny, I met him during GSoC too over a decade ago, and he's been on top of the open source game.
I vouched for this post because I have corresponded with him and he engaged in an in unnecessarily condescending way. What are you referring to by GSOC?
Same. Maybe it's the open source ecosystem that forced him to be overly self confident, to fly above the cognitive noise.
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
oook, but why?
Jean-Baptiste is a hero! Just in case some of you don't know or remember, he has refused an offer to sell VLC for tens of millions of Euros because he didn't want enshittify it. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15372048.
well deserved
I've heard he was working on an extremely low latency gaming system: Kyber
Anyone has any recent news on that subject?
Well deserved!
I’m old enough to remember crappiness before VLC. Such a useful piece of software. Well deserved. What a dude.
K Lite Codec Pack + Media Player Classic was great
VLC is most beautiful software for me. They never spied on their users, never put any bloat. Thanks Jean-Baptiste Kempf and everyone involved bringing this beautiful piece of art to life!
Still really hoping his game/app streaming system Kyber eventually materializes! https://kyber.media/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39929602 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RvosCplkCc
Incredibly accomplished already. What gravy this would be though.